“I don't always feel super connected with the land, even when I'm fighting for it, but you get so easily caught up in getting to the office and things like that. When I feel most connected to the land is when I'm at Torrent Bay in the Abel Tasman, and it's also the time that I feel most connected to myself.

I think what kind of almost forces a connection to the land is that you don't really have service. We never used to, we've been mostly every year since I was a kid. You didn't have service or internet, and now you can use your data, but I never use my data because of how removing that, how I know it connects me to the land, to the people you're with, to the ocean, and how that feels.

I guess now I'm just thinking about how I can bring some of that into my everyday life as well. It's so easy to get the dopamine hits you get from your phone - it’s so seductive. And it can distract you, but there's also probably ways you could use it to engage in the land and how good that connection feels when you are feeling connected to the land that you're on and the people you're with.”

Neighbour Zine x Generation Zero: A series of conversations with friends